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Xbox 360 Live Open Moderate Strict NAT


Are you having Xbox Live NAT Issues

If when running the Xbox 360 Xbox Live test it reports you have a Moderate or Strict NAT please read this section as it provides guidance on ways to resolve this

 

An Explanation of NAT for the Xbox

Your NAT setting is responsible for just how much you can get out of Xbox live. If incorrectly set it means you may not be able to host games, chat to friends or only be able to join a smaller amount of games on-line.

First of all. A bit about the NAT status and what each one means:-

Strict

This is the worst possible setup. You can play/talk to other Xbox live gamers that have a NAT Status of Open and no-one else

Moderate

Better, but not ideal. You can play/talk to other Xbox live gamers that have a NAT Status of Open and Moderate and no-one else

Open

The optimum setting, you can play/talk with all other Xbox Live gamers *

* (However in some cases other factors can still impact your gaming even when your NAT status is reported as Open)


Are you connecting your Xbox to a PC/Laptop?

If you are connecting your Xbox to a PC/Laptop and get a NAT status of Moderate or Strict. It is probably because your PC is connected to a router using an Ethernet cable or Wireless. And you are using ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).

In this setup, ICS is not the best method to use, as you will never get a NAT Status better than Moderate.

The best method to use, which will get you a NAT status of Open, is to use bridging

If you are connecting your Xbox to a PC and the PC is using a USB modem and you are using a Personal Firewall (Mcafee/Zonealarm/Norton etc) and your NAT status is Strict or Moderate please look here

Please note no configuration is needed for the built in Windows XP/Visa Firewall


 

Are you connecting your Xbox to a PC/Laptop that uses a 3G USB modem?

Some mobile phone companies are offering internet access via a 3G USB modem that talks to your mobile phone, you can use this to connect your Xbox to Xbox Live (via your PC), but it has been found that some setups like 3 Broadband give you a strict NAT, to date there is nothing you can do about this and  this is because of the way the service is provided. 3G broadband providers usually allocate you a private IP Address and do the translation (NAT) to a public IP Address themselves outside of your control, leaving you with a strict NAT. So we do not recommend using this method at the moment.



General options for getting your NAT Status to Open

There are four ways to overcome a Strict/Moderate NAT setting when using a router. Please by aware, all of the methods have pro's and cons it is up to you which method you prefer and what works for you best. I have listed them in the order of ease of configuration:-

  1. If you have an Xbox Live Certified router, use the certified firmware for your router, also here
  2. Get the very latest version of firmware for your router. it could contain vital fixes relation to NAT
  3. Use UPnP. If your router supports this. Turn it on. The router will work out the ports it needs to open for Xbox live. If your router does not have this feature, check the manufacturers website for the latest firmware. (also make sure port forwarding and/or DMZ is turned off as they interfere with UPnP)
  4. Port Triggering (only available on some routers). A cross between UPnP and Port Forwarding and allows specific ports that you define to be opened/closed on demand to any device on your own network, you don't need to define the ip address of the Xbox unlike port forwarding so it will work with multiple end devices
  5. Port forwarding (look up your router here then follow the instructions for Xbox Live 360, but use these ports listed on this page to forward)
  6. Use a DMZ (De-militarized Zone)


The DMZ (De-militarized Zone) is an area that sits outside of your routers firewall. Don't worry though your not at risk with your Xbox

If you are a user of Belkin routers download and run this flash presentation which explains what to do (don't worry its safe!)

IMPORTANT

Do not mix and match port forwarding Xbox Live ports with UPnP and/or DMZ. Each of the methods should be used on their own. Do not turn on UPnP and also DMZ or port forward the Xbox Live ports to your Xbox or you will run into problems as the router will become confused as you are using multiple options to do the same job.

So.... now you know your options, how do you get the NAT to Open?

UPnP

Consult your router documentation to find out how to turn it on.

Don't be afraid of trying this on your own! For most routers turning on UPnP is very simple and straightforward.

  1. Ensure your Xbox IP address is set to "auto" (Important)
  2. Turn your router over and look at the exact model number
  3. Go to your router manufacturers website and download the manual for your router, its usually in the support/download section, look for the "User Guide" and download it, its usually in Adobe Acrobat format so you may also need the Adobe reader from www.adobe.com
  4. The manual for your router will tell you how to access your router settings via your web browser
  5. Ensure you have no Portforwarding or DMZ settings configured for Xbox Live (you should know if you have any as you will have setup them up and also know how to turn them off) this setup is important as these two methods can interfere with UPnP
  6. Locate the section in the manual telling you how to enable UPnP (just do a search for it in the Adobe Reader)
  7. Turn on UPnP, save the settings
  8. Reboot the router and Xbox and run the Xbox Live Test again, hopefully you now have an Open NAT.

If your NAT is not Open, look at the rest of this FAQ and see if your router is listed below, if you still have issues you may need to Portforward instead.


Portforwarding


If UPnP is not an option for you, or you have tried it and it does not work. Look up your router here then follow the instructions for Xbox Live 360. When you use port forwarding the ip address that you need to forward the Xbox Live ports to to is the ip address of the Xbox.

It is crucial to use a static ip address when portforwarding or reserve the same ip address for your Xbox which is a feature on some routers, see this section for more details. Rather than use the Xbox Live ports listed on Portforward.com use these ports listed on this page instead.

DMZ

Consult your router documentation to find out how to put your Xbox IP Address in the DMZ of your router. It is crucial to use a static ip address when using a DMZ, see this section for more details.


Guides for Specific Routers

Netgear DG834G

Most new Netgear routers will have an Open NAT status of out the box as the have UPnP turned on by default. So you should not need to do any of the following, always ensure you have the latest version of firmware for your router from the Netgear website.

If you do still have problems, the first thing you need to do is make sure the Xbox gets the same ip address each time it boots up, as the configuration of the DMZ is just one IP address.

If you don't lock your Xbox/360 down to the same ip address it might work now, but not later if another device takes that ip address.

Start up the 360, go to My Xbox/System Settings/Network options, go to edit settings, go to additional settings and then advanced settings. Take a note of the letters and numbers under the “Wired Mac Address” or "Wireless Mac Address" - They should be both the same anyway.

The MAC Address will look something like this:-

00-0D-61-53-E2-52

Browse to your router's setup page usually 192.168.0.1 (This guide is for a Netgear DG834G, read your router manual and substitute your own routers IP Address).

  1. Go into LAN IP Setup. Note the DHCP address range (e.g 192.168.0.10 - 192.168.0.254), because you will be reserving an address from that range. Click on Address Reservation.
  2. Type in the address you have chosen to reserve from the range (e.g. 192.168.0.20).
  3. Type in the MAC Address you wrote down earlier.
  4. Type in a name of the device Xbox 360 for example
  5. Click on Add
  6. Save the changes on your router. Now reboot the Xbox/360 and check the dashboard and make sure it has the ip address you have reserved for it.

Now you need to put that reserved address into the DMZ.

  1. On the routers setup page, click on WAN Setup. Put the IP address in the Default DMZ Server field (you can only actually type in the last octet of the address).
  2. Ensure that the Default DMZ Server tick box is ticked.
  3. Click on Apply. Save the changes. Reboot the router and try the Xbox live test again. Your NAT settings should now be Open.
Netgear WGR614, WGT624, WGU624, WGT634U & WPN824
 
Generally with Netgear routers you do not need to use portforwarding or DMZ. So if you have set them up, turn them off now.

If your only requirement is to use one Xbox on your router, simply download the latest version of firmware from the Netgear website.

Ensure UPnP is on and DMZ or Portforwarding is turned off, this is very important. UPnP needs to be left to do the work on its own, forwarding ports or using a DMZ will interfere and not give the desired results.

If you need to use two or more Xboxes on your router (or you've tried the latest firmware and its still not Open) Look up and download the Xbox Live certified version of firmware here
 
If your firmware is no longer listed on the Netgear site we also now host most of the certified versions here

Using the certified version of firmware with your Netgear means you do not need to change any settings. So ensure any DMZ or Portforwarding settings are turned off and UPnP is turned on (it is by default)

Please note that on certain firmware versions of this
router, it has been known for the Xbox live test to report a NAT status of Strict even after putting the Xbox in a DMZ.

Do not worry, your gaming should be fine, the settings is not strict its just the router mis-reporting the status.
This can be fixed by getting the latest version of firmware for the router.

It has also been found on some version of Netgears "Trend Micro" can interfere with your NAT status, try disabling this feature if it is present.

As stated above you are best using UPnP, get the latest version of firmware for the router. Do not enable a DMZ or Portforwarding. And see if the NAT Status is Open.
 
If it isnt, try turning off UPnP, follow the instructions to get your Xbox MAC Address as above. Then follow the instructions below to configure the router:-
Open up your web browser on the PC and type in this:-
  1. http://www.routerlogin.net
  2. Login with the username of admin and password of password
  3. Click on the LAN IP Setup
  4. Click on the Add button
  5. In the IP Address box, type in 192.168.1.20
  6. Type the MAC Address of the Xbox 360 that you got above
  7. Click Apply to enter the reserved address into the table.
  8. Click on the WAN Setup
  9. Look for the default DMZ server setting, change the last digit to 20 and then put a tick in the box, click on Apply.
  10. Reboot the router and the Xbox 360 and it should now be all setup so you can access everyone’s games
BT Voyager 2109 Router users

First of all you need to ensure that you are using a static IP Address in your Xbox.

Put these details into the Xbox Dashboard:-

IP Address: 192.168.1.35
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS Server 1: 192.168.1.1 (or the real DNS server for your ISP)
DNS Server 2: 192.168.1.1 (or the real DNS server for your ISP)
  1. Next you need to access the router using a PC or Mac browser. The address is http://voyager.home/
  2. Click on the "advanced" menu option on the left hand side. If you are asked to login use the default username "admin" the password is the same "admin" (this assumes you haven't changed these yourself)
  3. Click on the "Virtual Server" option. This gives you the option to allow all internet traffic for the 360/Xbox 1.
  4. Click on the option "Forwarded to the DMZ host" - then type in the IP address you assigned to the Xbox 360 in step 1 (192.168.1.35 in my example)
  5. Click "Apply" and you are done. You 360's NATs are now open and you can enjoy Xbox Live to the full.

(Credit to shinesevens of the OXM Forums for supplying the information for the Voyager 2109)

 

BT Voyager 205 Router

Please see this section

 

BT HomeHub Router

Please see this section

 

Linksys (most models)

Some of the Wireless G range of Linksys routers have had NAT issues for sometime now, recently Linksys have released new firmware for some models that fix these issues, therefore I suggest you download and use the latest version of firmware and reset the router back to factory defaults and check the outcome of the NAT status


Belkin Routers (most models)

Depending on the model of router the menus/setting may differ slightly.
  • http://192.168.2.1/
  • System Settings
  • Locate the UPnP advanced feature at the bottom of the page
  • Select Change setting in that section
  • Click the Enable UPnP On Radio Button
  • Click Apply changes
  • Power off the router, wait 10 secs, power it back up again
  • Ensure your Xbox IP Address is set to auto
  • Run the Xbox live test and NAT should be Open

PLEASE NOTE: It appears that some gamers are having issues with some of the new Belkin N range of routers with regards to NAT. UPnP is already enabled and when running the Xbox Live test the NAT status is reported as Open, but still behaves likes its not (Slow matchmaking, dropping from games etc).

If you have the very latest version of firmware for your Belkin N and UPnP is turned on and you are still having issues I would recommend turning off UPnP and setting up Portforwarding instead.

ZyXEL Prestige 600 Series (also 660..etc)

You need to enable UPnP to ensure this router has an Open NAT, there are three options to use and you need to use them all as follows:-

  • http://192.168.1.1/
  • Find the "UPnP" settings.
  • Enable the Universal Plug and Play(UPnP) Service
  • Enable Allow users to make configuration changes through UPnP
  • Enable Allow UPnP to pass through Firewall
  • Save the settings, Reboot the router and try again

 

SmartAX MT882 (Version 2)

  • On your Xbox put these manual details in:-
IP: 192.168.1.10
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.1.2
DNS 1: 192.168.1.2
DNS 2: 192.168.1.2
(If you get issues with DNS after making these changes try these settings instead
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS 1: 192.168.1.1
DNS 2: 192.168.1.1)
  • Access your router's config page by clicking on one of the links below
  • http://192.168.1.2 or http://192.168.1.1
  • Enter Username = admin, Password = admin
  • Goto Advanced, then, disable UPnP, click save all
  • Goto Basic, then, goto your NAT settings
  • On DMZ create delete any current entries and make a new one. The Local IP From and Local IP To should be the same. This will be the IP address of your Xbox 360 (as above)
  • On NAPT delete any entries that are there, and make a new series of entries. Under the new entry, use the IP range of ALL IP addresses connected to that modem/router. e.g if your last device uses the IP Address. .140 use 192.168.1.2 as the From and 192.168.1.140 as the To. ENSURE it covers the whole of the ip addresses in use otherwise not all devices will work correctly or be NAT'ed.
  • On redirect delete any entries
  • Click back onto DMZ
  • Now Goto Tools, Save and Reboot,
  • Click save, wait for refresh, Click reboot, wait for refresh and re-enter user and password details (admin admin)
  • Your NAT status should now be Open

You should now have open NAT when you test you XBL settings.

If you still do not have an Open NAT I would recommend that you choose the factory reset option and follow the guide again. Please ensure you note down or have a copy of your ISP username/password before doing this as all settings will be lost.

(Credit to Shorum of our forum for supplying the information for the SmartAX MT882)

(Further credit to Shahmizzle of our forum for supplying the amendments to make this work for all)

Thompson Speedtouch 576 (and other models)

  • Click on http://speedtouch.lan/ or http://192.168.1.254/ to open up the router config page in your browser
  • The default username=Administrator
  • The default password is blank so just press enter (unless of course you've changed these settings from the defaults)
  • Click on the "Game and Application Sharing" menu
  • Untick the UPnP option
  • Click Apply
  • Create a static ip address on your Xbox by following the instructions here
  • In the Home Network menu, click Devices.
  • In the Pick a task list, click Assign the public IP address of a connection to a device.
  • Click the Edit link of your Internet connection.
    In the Device list, select the device you want to assign the public address to. The Xbox may not appear in the list, if it doesn't you should be able to manually enter the ip address of the Xbox in that field.
  • Click Apply.
  • The SpeedTouch™ prompts you to make some adjustments as a result of the new configuration.
  • Click OK.
  • After that, restart the Xbox and the router and try again
  • After saving Applying/Saving all settings you have changed, power off the router and xbox. Wait 20 seconds and power up the router then then Xbox and your NAT should be Open and able to host/join games

 

Cisco PIX Firewall

For Cisco PIX Firewall users:

Understanding Cisco firewalls is a tad more complex than your standard consumer type Linksys router. In order to get your PIX to allow your XBox NAT to be recognized as OPEN, you will need the following configs added to your PIX (in the third section replace 'xboxStaticIP' with the actual IP of your Xbox):

!
access-list outside_access_in permit udp any interface outside eq 3074
access-list outside_access_in permit tcp any interface outside eq 3074
access-list outside_access_in permit udp any interface outside eq 88
!
access-group outside_access_in in interface outside
!
static (inside,outside) tcp interface 3074 xboxStaticIP 3074 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
static (inside,outside) udp interface 3074 xboxStaticIP 3074 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
static (inside,outside) udp interface 88 xboxStaticIP 88 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
!
================

Save those configs to memory and rerun your Xbox Network Tests, you should see your NAT definition change from Moderate to OPEN.

Full credit to SkidrowCowboy of Teamxbox forums for this information.


Tried everything above and still have issues?

One problem you could be experiencing is "double NAT". That's where two devices on the same network are carrying out NAT and your Xbox's NAT status ends up in a mess.

This usually applies to people who have a separate router and modem.

So in theory you could follow all of the instructions above to change your router to get a NAT of Open but it still ends up as moderate or strict.

If this is the case you need to check the modem that connects to your ISP. Until now many modems were just dumb devices so this wasn't an issue. Now some ISP's are providing modems with some routing functionality, including NAT. Which can mess things up for you.

If you have a separate modem from your router you need to look up details on the modem on the internet and find out if it has routing functionality.

If it does, you should be able to configure it in "bridged mode", this changes it back into "dumb mode" and passes everything across to your router unchanged so the router can do all the hard work.



 
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